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Android 19 and 20 vs Frieza
Topic Started: Aug 4 2011, 08:51 PM (2,603 Views)
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Androids 19 and 20 vs Frieza

Who would win?
Edited by Ani-Nation, Aug 4 2011, 08:52 PM.
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I would give it to either android individually, and rather easily. I see them as strong as SSj Future Trunks when he first arrived, at least.
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I have Dr Gero (At his max - post everything absorbed) at just a little bit weaker than 100% Freeza, and #19 only a bit weaker than Gero.
I think that they would win together but lose apart, especially due to the fact they seem to have almost no fighting ability...

If it was Mecha Freeza I'm not so sure... he could probably beat them both fast but if he dragged it out too long or got his energy absorbed he'd lose.
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In my eyes Goku became something like three times stronger than he was before.

SSjin Goku [Android Arc]: 450,000,000

SSjin Goku [Android Arc; Sick]: 270,000,000

Android 19 [initial]: 180,000,000

In my eyes, the Androids at this point surpass Freeza altogether, even without collecting energy. 19 would wipe the floor with Freeza's butt.
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Aug 4 2011, 08:59 PM
In my eyes Goku became something like three times stronger than he was before.

SSjin Goku [Android Arc]: 450,000,000

SSjin Goku [Android Arc; Sick]: 270,000,000

Android 19 [initial]: 180,000,000

In my eyes, the Androids at this point surpass Freeza altogether, even without collecting energy. 19 would wipe the floor with Freeza's butt.
From Piccolo's quote on Goku, I don't think he was that weak yet, until he fired the Kamehameha. Piccolo says Goku is putting out "close to his full power", so yeah.
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I'm damn serious

Either android takes this on their own easily
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Frieza gets Cocky.
Either Android grabs him and absorbs all of his energy.
Frieza Dies.
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Aug 4 2011, 09:48 PM
ILLusioNaire
Aug 4 2011, 08:59 PM
In my eyes Goku became something like three times stronger than he was before.

SSjin Goku [Android Arc]: 450,000,000

SSjin Goku [Android Arc; Sick]: 270,000,000

Android 19 [initial]: 180,000,000

In my eyes, the Androids at this point surpass Freeza altogether, even without collecting energy. 19 would wipe the floor with Freeza's butt.
From Piccolo's quote on Goku, I don't think he was that weak yet, until he fired the Kamehameha. Piccolo says Goku is putting out "close to his full power", so yeah.
I thought Piccolo quoted before Goku fired the Kamehameha that he looked really weak and that he already seemed to be giving his all.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

The Androids stomp Freeza. That would be nasty to see.
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Aug 4 2011, 09:48 PM
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Aug 4 2011, 08:59 PM
In my eyes Goku became something like three times stronger than he was before.

SSjin Goku [Android Arc]: 450,000,000

SSjin Goku [Android Arc; Sick]: 270,000,000

Android 19 [initial]: 180,000,000

In my eyes, the Androids at this point surpass Freeza altogether, even without collecting energy. 19 would wipe the floor with Freeza's butt.
From Piccolo's quote on Goku, I don't think he was that weak yet, until he fired the Kamehameha. Piccolo says Goku is putting out "close to his full power", so yeah.
I thought Piccolo quoted before Goku fired the Kamehameha that he looked really weak and that he already seemed to be giving his all.
Chapter 341 (DBZ 147), P8.4-5, P9.
Piccolo: “Have you noticed too, Gohan?...”
Gohan: “Y-yes…”
Piccolo: “Son Goku is rushing the match for some reason…He’s already putting out close to his full power…But even so, what’s with that miserable condition of his?...”
Tenshinhan: “Th-that miserable condition…!? What are you talking about? Goku’s overwhelmingly pushing him back…!”
Piccolo: “It’s not that. As a Super Saiyan, Goku’s power should be more stupendous than this…”

Piccolo says he's putting out close to his full power, but still says it's stupendous at the same time.
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ILLusioNaire
Aug 4 2011, 08:59 PM
In my eyes Goku became something like three times stronger than he was before.

SSjin Goku [Android Arc]: 450,000,000

SSjin Goku [Android Arc; Sick]: 270,000,000

Android 19 [initial]: 180,000,000

In my eyes, the Androids at this point surpass Freeza altogether, even without collecting energy. 19 would wipe the floor with Freeza's butt.
From Piccolo's quote on Goku, I don't think he was that weak yet, until he fired the Kamehameha. Piccolo says Goku is putting out "close to his full power", so yeah.
I thought Piccolo quoted before Goku fired the Kamehameha that he looked really weak and that he already seemed to be giving his all.
Chapter 341 (DBZ 147), P8.4-5, P9.
Piccolo: “Have you noticed too, Gohan?...”
Gohan: “Y-yes…”
Piccolo: “Son Goku is rushing the match for some reason…He’s already putting out close to his full power…But even so, what’s with that miserable condition of his?...”
Tenshinhan: “Th-that miserable condition…!? What are you talking about? Goku’s overwhelmingly pushing him back…!”
Piccolo: “It’s not that. As a Super Saiyan, Goku’s power should be more stupendous than this…”

Piccolo says he's putting out close to his full power, but still says it's stupendous at the same time.
You must be using a different translation of some kind. In my Shonen Jump Graphic Novel it says:

Piccolo: "Son Goku is rushing the battle for some reason... He's already giving all he's got..."

He then goes on to say...

Piccolo: "But look at how weak he is..."

If Goku was using full power I doubt Piccolo could say this and it make sense. Tien expresses perplexity and Piccolo continues saying,

"This is nothing [talking about his current power]. His power as a Super Saiyan should be far more staggering[astonishing or shocking, indicating more powerful] than this."

So, according to my translation it says that Goku was operating at a lower level, and not full power.
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Goku was trying to finish the fight as soon as possible, its very probable that he knew that his illness was starting to affect him very quickly...
We know that Goku always at the beggining of his fights he spar and taunts the opponent for a while.
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Aug 4 2011, 09:48 PM
ILLusioNaire
Aug 4 2011, 08:59 PM
In my eyes Goku became something like three times stronger than he was before.

SSjin Goku [Android Arc]: 450,000,000

SSjin Goku [Android Arc; Sick]: 270,000,000

Android 19 [initial]: 180,000,000

In my eyes, the Androids at this point surpass Freeza altogether, even without collecting energy. 19 would wipe the floor with Freeza's butt.
From Piccolo's quote on Goku, I don't think he was that weak yet, until he fired the Kamehameha. Piccolo says Goku is putting out "close to his full power", so yeah.
I thought Piccolo quoted before Goku fired the Kamehameha that he looked really weak and that he already seemed to be giving his all.
Chapter 341 (DBZ 147), P8.4-5, P9.
Piccolo: “Have you noticed too, Gohan?...”
Gohan: “Y-yes…”
Piccolo: “Son Goku is rushing the match for some reason…He’s already putting out close to his full power…But even so, what’s with that miserable condition of his?...”
Tenshinhan: “Th-that miserable condition…!? What are you talking about? Goku’s overwhelmingly pushing him back…!”
Piccolo: “It’s not that. As a Super Saiyan, Goku’s power should be more stupendous than this…”

Piccolo says he's putting out close to his full power, but still says it's stupendous at the same time.
You must be using a different translation of some kind. In my Shonen Jump Graphic Novel it says:

Piccolo: "Son Goku is rushing the battle for some reason... He's already giving all he's got..."

He then goes on to say...

Piccolo: "But look at how weak he is..."

If Goku was using full power I doubt Piccolo could say this and it make sense. Tien expresses perplexity and Piccolo continues saying,

"This is nothing [talking about his current power]. His power as a Super Saiyan should be far more staggering[astonishing or shocking, indicating more powerful] than this."

So, according to my translation it says that Goku was operating at a lower level, and not full power.
Yeah, my translation is from Herms. It's not saying Goku was at full power, just close enough to it that he wasn't completely miserable yet. He didn't really start faltering until he fired his Kamehameha, after all.
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Aug 5 2011, 07:18 PM
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Aug 5 2011, 05:29 PM
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Aug 5 2011, 08:29 AM
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Aug 5 2011, 07:41 AM
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Aug 4 2011, 09:48 PM
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Aug 4 2011, 08:59 PM
In my eyes Goku became something like three times stronger than he was before.

SSjin Goku [Android Arc]: 450,000,000

SSjin Goku [Android Arc; Sick]: 270,000,000

Android 19 [initial]: 180,000,000

In my eyes, the Androids at this point surpass Freeza altogether, even without collecting energy. 19 would wipe the floor with Freeza's butt.
From Piccolo's quote on Goku, I don't think he was that weak yet, until he fired the Kamehameha. Piccolo says Goku is putting out "close to his full power", so yeah.
I thought Piccolo quoted before Goku fired the Kamehameha that he looked really weak and that he already seemed to be giving his all.
Chapter 341 (DBZ 147), P8.4-5, P9.
Piccolo: “Have you noticed too, Gohan?...”
Gohan: “Y-yes…”
Piccolo: “Son Goku is rushing the match for some reason…He’s already putting out close to his full power…But even so, what’s with that miserable condition of his?...”
Tenshinhan: “Th-that miserable condition…!? What are you talking about? Goku’s overwhelmingly pushing him back…!”
Piccolo: “It’s not that. As a Super Saiyan, Goku’s power should be more stupendous than this…”

Piccolo says he's putting out close to his full power, but still says it's stupendous at the same time.
You must be using a different translation of some kind. In my Shonen Jump Graphic Novel it says:

Piccolo: "Son Goku is rushing the battle for some reason... He's already giving all he's got..."

He then goes on to say...

Piccolo: "But look at how weak he is..."

If Goku was using full power I doubt Piccolo could say this and it make sense. Tien expresses perplexity and Piccolo continues saying,

"This is nothing [talking about his current power]. His power as a Super Saiyan should be far more staggering[astonishing or shocking, indicating more powerful] than this."

So, according to my translation it says that Goku was operating at a lower level, and not full power.
Yeah, my translation is from Herms. It's not saying Goku was at full power, just close enough to it that he wasn't completely miserable yet. He didn't really start faltering until he fired his Kamehameha, after all.
Although Tien noticed that after flying with the Androids to the place where they were going to fight he was already tired...
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Yeah, a symptom of the virus, but it doesn't point to him being a whole lot weaker.
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